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How that possible ?

Yeah the rooms have definitely been renovated if that was the case, checkout the photos on their site or booking its looking really nice now. 

Has it been renovated ? In 2019 there were reviews Hope Land hotel was outdated.

Jeez....you can also get run over crossing the road....don't over think things.....we spend days, months, years debating on LOS trips why on earth
would you want to restrict /challenge yourself over baggage.

Thats what I say to some of the lb's!.

Again.
In Thailand people got vaccinated for smallpox to a much later date than in the west. Plenty of people in the scene have the vaccine scar on their arm.
Those vaccines are lifetime effective and cross protect against monkeypox. This is the current hypothesis of why some countries have almost no spread.
I can tell you with absolute certainty that this disease is not strongly underreported. Those blisters are huge, very painful and very visible. 
 
If you simply don’t have sex with anyone with blisters, your chance to get monkeypox go from absolutely neglible to theoretically possible in Thailand.
If you are still worried, get vaccinated. Several countries in the west have started vaccinating At risk groups. In France we get a lot of foreigners coming here for vaccination.

Other option is to start now, see if you have any reaction, so you can stop before you come to bkk. But I don't know when you're coming.

I would get sick and throw up when I took it.


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funny thing is, I am absolutely not prone to stomach trouble :-D reverse world.

I haven't had any problems at all. No side effects whatsoever. That said, I'm prone to stomach trouble anyway, so it could probably have slipped in unnoticed.

thanks mate that's exactly what I was after. now I wont worry about getting prep here and will start it when I arrive in BKK not having to worry about the side effect's not going away for the entire duration of my trip if I have the sides ill stop taking it and within 3 days ill be all set. very much appreciated thanks again! 

A side note. Many western people wear T shirts with the face of Che Guevara on it. That man was a real monster. I have always found that equally apprehensive.

Everytime I take prep, I have pretty bad diarhea and stopach pain, taking it for a month makes side effects dissapear. Stopping prep makes them dissapear 3 days after.
most people are more lucky.

Hi Guys,
I know this is an old post, and i hope it is ok to revive it for such an important topic. i don`t want to ruin anyone`s hardon, but i figure it is important for me to tell my story.
So..I was a hetro for many many years and never had any experiences with anyone except for women. Fast forward to my 4th or 5th trip to BKK on biz and i found myself drunk in nana and trying to stick my tongue down a hot hot "chick"`s throat - when suddenly i was informed that there was a little extra between the legs, and to my surprise it didn`t bother me - in fact i liked it! Fast forward 10 years later and i became a LB "addict", where this became my preference by default, and teh center of my free time. So many things about LB that i love, but, i can sum it up in 4 words - I love the sex!!!
So, playing around like the rest of us, sometimes on top, some times on bottom, always with condom except for BJ (giving and getting).
Always healthy, never really any issues. Fast forward 5 years ago, i caught my first case of gonorrhea (i was 45 years old!!)....who knows how and from whom. Got rid of it and all was great.
2 years ago, i had an encounter with a "bored in room and looking for fun" lb that i met on CL. She did not want cash, was originally from VN but lived in the USA here for plastic surgery (that was her story) and we started to play. After some regular foreplay, she got on top (with a condom) and things were great. At a certain point i reached back to feel the condom (i always do this for reassurance) and just as i did, she pulled out and said "oops it just slipped off a second ago".
Ok,... didn`t think much of it. She put it back on and we played a bit more and that was that.
Well....as you can all guess, that was not "THAT".....
a few weeks later, flu-like symptoms, doc visit, anti-biotics, symptoms don`t clear, a week or 2 go by, i go back to doctor and he sends me to the ID Doc, he runs the array of tests and comes back with the bad news - i am HIV positive....shock...utter shock! How? What? Me? I`m a married guy with a good job, kids, no drugs, always use condoms...THIS CAN`T BE HAPPENING!!!
It was horrible. I was completely uneducated and thought that i would die a shameful horrible death within months - luckily i was absolutely wrong. Started meds, read and researched TONS, told the wife who supported me throughout the process, she is neg, after a few months i was UD, perfectly healthy, perfect CD4 and life has gone on.
 
A few things to learn from my case (regarding HIV only! - there are many other STD`s):
any risk of exposure is a real risk of exposure and should be treated accordingly. Bottoms and needle users (for whatever) have the highest risk of exposure. 1 second of exposure is exposure. Had i been educated, i would have known about PeP. If you have been exposed, PeP is a real option that has a VERY HIGH chance of preventing infection. For those that don`t know, PeP is basically taking HIV meds within a day or 2 of exposer (i forget the exact amount of time, but the sooner the better) for an entire month, thus preventing the virus from infecting white blood cells and multiplying. It is like the "morning after pill" of HIV. It works! I was ignorant,i had no idea, i didn`t even think of it, and the rest is history. Stupid me! People with HIV who are on meds and UD (UnDetectable viral load) cannot infect others through sex. This is 99.9% certain. UD = Untranslatable. That is why testing regularly and knowing ones status is so important, and, if one gets infected, starting meds asap is important. The sooner you start your meds once infected, the better. In fact you will have a near NORMAL LIFE EXPECTANCY and can be if you start immediately (some say a LONGER one since the frequent doc visits catch any anomalies early and can be treated, as opposed to people who do not frequently visit docs). The quicker you start, the less long term damage done to your immune system. I was lucky since i showed symptoms and went to get checked. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT SHOW SYMPTOMS WHEN FIRST INFECTED. SO, GET CHECKED REGULARLY!! This will cause controversy i am sure - It is safer to have sex with someone who is HIV Positive and UNDETECTABLE, rather than someone whose status is unknown. Think it through, and if you disagree with me, let me know why. People who are HIV positive and NOT on medication and NOT UD (undetectable) usually are VERY infectious because their Viral Load (VL) is high. When i discovered my infection, it was soon after being infected, when the VL is very high usually, and my VL was around 4MILLION! It took 3 months of meds to get me UD (= less than 40!!). My wife was very lucky because we had sex a few times just days before i was diagnosed and yet she never got infected - we (she) were very lucky! Life goes on after HIV - daily meds is the main burden, but today, the side affects are mild, and things are basically normal - life goes on. I usually disclose to the sex partners i play with out of sheer conscience and morality (and perhaps legality). 99% don`t seem to care. Most LB`s seem to understand the basics or just don`t seem to care. I sometimes wonder how many are poz and/if on meds. Today there is a something called PreP - this is taking HIV meds before infection on a regular daily basis - for people who are high risk. It is a preventative measure and has proved to prevent being infected more than 90% of the cases. It is given for free in some places like the Redcross. I try teaching the LB i meet about this and urge them to start since they are very high risk. In my case, i believe i figured out how i got it - that one incident. However, often i wonder if i got it from oral sex where i gave and did not use a condom (i never used a condom giving or getting). I know the chances are EXTREMELY low and "no documented cases" but maybe that`s because no one knows that is how they got it? Oh well, looking forward and not backwards! So....sorry if i ruined anyone`s good time. I thought it would be important to tell men of the same interest a real life story from just an ordinary normal guy like you, and hopefully it will help someone out one of these days.
BTW, if anyone has any questions, feel free to PM me.
Take care guys. I LOVE THIS FORUM!

This looking like a nasty little forker. Certainly worthy of conversation considering it’s preference of spreading.

We stopped vaccinating for smallpox in the west 50 years ago because the disease was erradicated.
Lesser developed countries stopped vaccinating much later than the west.
In Thailand I have seen quite a few younger people with the typical smallpox vaccine scar.
This vaccine works a lifetime and should at least strongly protect against monkeypox.

Ergo.
1. If you are older and still got this vaccine, you really should not worry at all.
2. If (I have no info how many younger people Thailand are innoculated) a decent amount of sexworkers/civilians in Thailand got innoculated, chance of getting infected is very very low when mongering.

As far as I know, Thailand has gotten very few monkeypox cases. Seeing this disease is pretty visible, I don't think there has been a huge underreported outbreak. I read they have 4 cases of which 2 are foreign nationals.

If you come into contact with someone who has obvious blisters, go to the hospital and get vaccinated. The vaccines tend to still have effect when taken after the moment of (possible) infection.

Tell that to the diabetics of the world. Unsupervised, unprescribed T-shots are crazy
But the are no different than any other intramuscular shot you may take, and very easy to self-administer, 
 

There are docs in Thailand who give injections. I never get them there myself, because I get 2 large doses in the week before I leave the US and that keeps things going until I return home. I know you can also buy testosterone and syringes from some pharmacies in Thailand, but you don't want to do that because injecting yourself without physician supervision is unwise and dangerous. There was another BM from this board living full time in Thailand who did that. He was giving himself large doses thinking more was better. He passed away suddenly and I wonder if his injecting himself hastened his passing.  Be smart and don't dose yourself. 
When you get your first injection, you will feel a jolt that day. A few days after that ,libido, energy etc. return to where they were before and then you get weekly injections. It was a long time ago when I started, but I think it was maybe 3-4 weeks before I felt full effects. Every guy is different, however. Some guys get testosterone pellet injections which last several weeks, but my doctor said weekly injections remain the best treatment. 
If you can, you need to start your treatments at home under doctor supervision about 4-6 weeks before your trip. That way, your motor will be humming when you arrive in BKK. 
I recommend every guy over the age of 40 or so get testosterone treatments. It changes everything for the better. 

Better get info from sources:

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep/prep-effectiveness.html

https://prepdaily.org/tops-bottoms-and-prep-what-you-need-to-know-about-hiv-prevention/
https://www.hiv.va.gov/patient/faqs/risk-of-oral-sex.asp
https://www.aidsmap.com/news/nov-2020/how-prep-users-decide-whether-use-condoms