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Several years ago, I booked a room at this hotel for 2 weeks to use for ladyboy escapades while my "real" hotel room was several miles away on the riverfront. It was essentially a glorified short time room for me, except it didn't have the sleazy feel of a typical ST room and I only had to check in once. Nana Plaza still had 5 or 6 ladyboy bars open and it was an ideal location to take ladyboys from the gogos. The decor looks pretty much the same today as it did then.
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On 5/14/2025 at 8:12 PM, Bwana_LB said:Unfortunately, the Chicago Polaris Club has been closed for a while for renovations. Returning from Europe last month I connected at ORD, and we were directed to the regular United Club which was completely overcrowded due to the closing of the Polaris Lounge. It looked like they were many months away from reopening it.
Some good news on this front. The Polaris lounge at ORD reopened in late April. The link below details the renovations.
I have a ladyboy trip coming up in a few weeks and I will likely be flying ANA out of Chicago . I can't wait to check this place out.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-polaris-lounge-chicago/
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1 hour ago, Long John said:Speaking of which. Have you guys had the LB warning switch turn on with a flight crew. I have, twice in the last year. From memory one was with Vietjet. I always check out the hand and feet size along with the adams apple. Also the better makeup and attention to detail.
Years ago, there was a Thai airline that prioritized hiring of LB flight attendants. Some BMs here may remember it.
Read the Guardian link first, then read the Wikipedia link to learn the fate of the airline.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jan/17/pc-air-transgender-flight-attendants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.C._Air
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21 minutes ago, Unavowed said:I was surprised there weren't any direct flights from the US. It must have been a pain getting to Thailand especially with most US companies offering so little personal leave.
I'm glad that it's "only" a 9 hour flight from Australia. The daytime Thai airways flights are fine, but I'm definitely getting to the point that I need to book business class or a stopover for anything longer than that or when it involves an overnight leg.
It takes 20 - 24 hours to fly from anywhere in the US to Bangkok. You can connect in Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul or Taipei. You can choose from several Asian airlines and they all set their flight schedules to accommodate US travelers connecting elsewhere. Most of the layovers are anywhere from 1 hour to 4 or 5 hours. It's the same thing flying east with one of the Arab carriers. Flying west takes 1 to 2 hours longer than flying east due to western winds blowing across the globe. The winds are going to slow you either coming or going to the US.
I have been flying thru Asia since the end of Covid. I used to also fly the Arab airlines, but they have gotten way too greedy and you get more bang for the buck from top shelf Asian airlines these days. Japan Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Singapore or ANA - you can't go wrong with any of them.
I am normally very cautious with my money but I always fly business class on LB trips because I simply could not handle being crammed into a coach seat for 22 or 24 hours on an airplane. I know most other BMs from the US or Canada do the same for the same reasons.
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27 minutes ago, taaseesanuk said:Just got back from flying London to Chicago with United, I have to say it wasn't great. The food was truly awful and I am by no
means fussy. My son's screen wouldn't work which on a nearly 8 hour flight is a real downer, they did however offer him a voucher
for use on booking his next flight with them! The Stewardesses are older regular Mumsy types which is fine, but listening to them talking shop
across the aisles seemed a bit unprofessional. We also had two further internal flights with United, both ends were delayed for nearly an hour.
Maybe it was just my rotten luck, but I would think twice before using them again.
If you rank the big 3 US airlines, most folks would say United is entrenched in 3rd place. I try to avoid United myself when flying domestically, preferring Delta or AA.
That said, I think United's Polaris lounge in Chicago is pretty much on a par some of the best in the world, just one cut below Qatar or Emirates lounges in the Middle East. Last year on a ladyboy trip, I flew ANA biz class out of Chicago, which gave me access to the Polaris lounge at O' Hare. It was far superior to anything ANA had in Tokyo and that's saying something. I was shocked at how good it was.
The reason you see middle aged gals working overseas flights is because US age-discrimination law prohibits airlines from dumping flight attendants when they hit 30 or 35 like Asian airlines do and their labor contracts allow them to get the overseas gigs because of their seniority ranking. That's not necessarily a bad thing because while I enjoy being served by a 25 year old cookie on a flight, I would much rather have the older ladies on board in case of an emergency. Same thing with pilots. I want my pilot to be a guy with gray hair who flew in the military, has one zillion hours in the cockpit and likes to go fishing with his grandkids. Absolutely.
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Like Nick said, any LB or GG you pick up from the street or out of a bar will know where the nearest short time hotel is. Follow her lead.
There is no shortage of cheap hotels in the area, and there won't be any difference among $20 - $30 USD hotel rooms.
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1 hour ago, xxoahu said:am i missing the ladyboys on these websites? i can't find mention of/photos of ladyboys on these websites
You're not missing anything on the KokoroBkk site. Heavily photoshopped girls who aren't nekkid is all they have.
FWIW, this place refers to their girls as "product". I wonder what the warranty is on the product if you get saddled with a starfish or a clock-watcher.
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11 minutes ago, taaseesanuk said:I'm not so sure that is so much the case these days, maybe still with the older generation but from Millennials down I don't think
they give two hoots.
I don't disagree that young folks are generally more socially enlightened than their parents, but some cultures and age groups will be stuck in the old days and I don't think that will be changing anytime soon.
For instance, think about the growing number of Muslim families that visit Thailand. These are desirable tourists with money and there is no way a hotel that wishes to attract them is going to hire an LB for the front desk to check them in or serve them in any other capacity. Mainstream middle age and elderly Western farangs are also tourists with money and while they may be more liberal than Muslims, the mere sight of an LB is guaranteed to have them nudging and whispering to each other. I have seen their reactions myself one million times over the years, you probably have as well. Even when young Western farangs visit LB bars, they frequently regard it a they would visit a zoo, shooting pics and video to post on social media for some laughs.
Ladyboys are everyday stuff for us, but for most other people in the world, LBs may as well be from outer space. Hotels and other businesses that cater to tourists know this and they adjust their hiring practices accordingly. That's why you rarely see ladyboys working for them.
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2 hours ago, Jeff_LBL said:Yes I have found the odd one or two and sometimes more in the larger hotels and at times like yourself I have only been 50\50 if they are or are not but you would think there would be a boutique hotel of this type in Bangkok ?
Page 10 Hotel in Pattaya employs several LBs, or at least they did the last time I was there. They work the front desk and there are also a handful of them in the restaurant. I have never seen that many ladyboys working straight jobs in one workplace before or since. The down side is Page 10 is absurdly overpriced for what they offer. Even the presence of LBs doesn't make it worth your money.
Sad to say, but I am sure most hotels prefer not to have LBs working in positions that directly face customers for business reasons. Most mainstream farang tourists find ladyboys weird and unsettling, and while Thai folks may publicly accept the presence of LBs in society, their real attitude about LBs is revealed by the fact that most families wouldn't stand for their son becoming one or marrying one. Hotels no doubt prefer to avoid all that stuff by only hiring ladyboys for low-visibility jobs only.
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On 2/16/2025 at 12:57 PM, tinpanali said:Hi all, new to the forum and I've been following this Hopeland thread with interest.
I'm heading back to BKK (much) later this year after a gap of about 20yrs and the landscape has changed a bit!
Plans are a bit fluid but its likely that I'll spend 4 or 5 nights in Bangkok and then about 10 nights in Patts.
I could hold a Deluxe Double Room at Hopeland at approx 2150 THB per night with Agoda and its free cancellation until about 1 week before check-in. So I've jumped on that and will look at other options if and when. Meantime, Hopeland ticks boxes - decidedly lb friendly, decent size rooms, a balcony you can sit on, roof pool (albeit small), quieter location and a gentle stroll to the action. Reviews are a bit mixed but generally pretty good. Is there anywhere else in that part of town - for approx same rates - that I should look at?
Cheers, Tinpan
Welcome to the forum.
I stayed at Hopeland for 3 nights during my last Bangkok trip a few weeks ago in January as well as staying at Citrus Suites, Park Royal Suites and Lohas Suites.
Some of the issues with Hopeland were detailed by other guys in this thread. A few too many folks hanging around in the lobby all the time, some of them snoozing away on the sofas. My room was large and I had no complaints except for the bullshit dim lighting in the bathroom. It was so bad, they may as well have had candles in there.
I never tried their restaurant. No worries because a few paces away is the very solid Det 5 bar/restaurant which is open all day and serves from a big menu with modest prices. You can't go wrong with that place.
It is a bit of a hike down Soi 8, but they have a golf cart to transport guests to Sukhumvit. If you don't want to walk down Soi 8 to the hotel, you can take a moto taxi from Suk for 20 baht. During the day when the sun is beating down, that's money well spent.
Of the 4 hotels I stayed at, I would say Park Royal Suites and Lohas Suites both offer more bang for the buck that Hopeland. I think Citus Suites is overpriced for what they provide, but it's popular with many BMs.
In this price range, the best of all the suite hotels for mongering purposes is Adelphi Suites on Soi 8. Yes, they can be pricier compared to the other places, but if you can stomach spending the extra cash, it's definitely the best place to stay due to its location with equal proximity to all the lounge bars. None of them are a more than a 5 -10 minute walk from Adelphi.
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8 hours ago, taaseesanuk said:I will try and provide an update on The Citrus suites later this month.
When they assign you a room, the very first thing you need to do is open the shower door and verify there are no sewer odors coming from the drain. I ran into this issue during my stay there in December. They gave me a new room. I know that Thai plumbing can be dodgy in older buildings, so it was surprising to experience it in building just a few years old.
FWIW, I have stayed at Citrus Suites 3 or 4 times over the years and never had any odor issues until last visit. What is interesting that I had the same issue with a Citrus 11 room a few years back. The staff there gave the impression they were quite well acquainted with the problem of smelly shower drain odors. Make what you will of that.
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On 11/27/2024 at 8:00 PM, Long John said:I contacted the hotel directly and they agreed to refund the money,(phew). Never before had I come across that situation. Usually pretty careful on reading the small print.
Another alternative is to directly ask for your credit card company for the refund instead of hoping booking sites or the hotel will do the right thing.
American Express in particular is very good about protecting their cardholders. Over the years I have cancelled 5 or 6 "non-cancellable" hotel reservations with Amex and gotten my money back every time with no questions asked.
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3 hours ago, dodgeyas said:I had an iphone repair and took it to one of the many iphone repair shops on the second floor of Fortune Town in Rama 9.
Fortune Town gets a A+ in my book.
About 10 years ago, I left on a ladyboy trip and failed to pack my laptop charger. I thought I was screwed because the laptop was an ancient Lenovo that was built during the Bronze Age. A guy working the front desk of my hotel told me about Fortune Town. I had to visit a couple of different shops before I found the charger, but people there were very helpful in getting me steered to a little place that sold nothing but chargers and batteries. It really did save me a world of trouble, because I needed the laptop to do work for back home.
It's also a fun place just to wander around and look at stuff.
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Damn, I posted at the exact same time Mangatanga posted his decision to stay at Citrus. Oh well, folks can use my post for future reference...
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I have stayed at both hotels. Park Royal once last year (and many stays when it was Phachara). I have only stayed at Citrus one time, which was earlier this year. I have also stayed at Adelphi many times.
If your top priority is simply the room itself, Park Royal wins. The executive suites are a bit larger, and the kitchenettes are better equipped with clothes washers. Citrus does not have washers. The bathrooms at PR are much larger than either Citrus or Adelphi. I don't know about anyone else, but I am not of fan of tiny bathrooms with no countertop space and small showers that are found in too many Bangkok hotels. You don't have that problem at Park Royal (pic below is from Trip Advisor). I think all of the executive suites have balconies, but the ones on the upper floors are quite large 15 sq. yds/meters or so. You could look down into Nana Plaza from them before NEP installed their roof a few years ago. The balconies are a winner.
Citrus has better hotel amenities like restaurant and pool. PR's restaurant isn't even worth setting foot in, but the Citrus restaurant is a perfectly good place to eat breakfast or lunch in. PR has a large pool, but that gets cancelled out by the roof over it that blocks out most of the sun and renders the water colder than the Arctic Ocean. Citrus' pool gets a lot of sun and the water won't freeze your ass off, which it makes it much better in my book.
Like Nick Bullseye says, Citrus and Adelphi do not take LB IDs, but Park Royal does.
There's really not that much difference among these 3 hotels. I would still take Adelphi over Park Royal or Citrus Suites due to its location, but the other places have their own strong points.
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2 hours ago, mangatanga said:… there was a bit of a walk past Monsoon and the hallway to the elevator… came across lots of families that were eyeballing my LB guests lol
Who gives a shit about the moral indignation of parents who take their kids on vacation to a red light zone?
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2 hours ago, waterplay said:obsession's 1000 bhat bar fine, aggressive lady drink tactics and girls glued to their phones have moved me away from NEP and more to Cindy's, CIB, thermae, Grindr and field - hence the interest in Soi's 11, 13, 15 which I have never patronised before - especially any western chains.
You may want to take a look at Radisson on Soi 13 or Solitaire on Soi 11. I have stayed at both of them in the past. Both are LB friendly with no guest fees. They both have all the bells and whistles of typical 4 star hotels. Radisson has a great pool on the roof along with a very solid Indian restaurant downstairs. Solitaire has gigantic beds, wider than king-size that can easily accommodate 3 LBs and yourself. Solitaire is about a two minute walk from Cindy's bar.
The only downside to these places is the long hike down 11 or 13 to Sukhumvit. Taking a moto taxi or a tuk-tuk is sometimes pointless because Soi 11 is often gridlocked at night with traffic. 13 is better, but it still takes time to get down the street. During daytime, traffic is a lot lighter however.
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2 hours ago, waterplay said:can anyone confirm if movenpick is guest friendly to LB dates?
It surely is LB friendly, but if you need peace of mind, all you have to do is email them. Have it read exactly like this:
"Hello-
Can you tell me what your guest policy is? Can my ladyboy friend stay overnight?
Thanks,
XXXX XXXX"
Be sure to mention your guest will be a ladyboy. Chances are you will receive positive reply.
Like Genghis said, book your room for 2 guests (this won't cost any more than booking for 1 guest).
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10 hours ago, Denbosch1971 said:I looked up SVK airport code. It's a small and privately owned landing strip with a gravel surface located in Belize.
If we connect the dots, it's reasonable to conclude that it's owned by a Central American drug lord and that the immigration process entails talking your way past a guy pointing an AK-47 at your head while threatening to work you over with a blow torch if he doesn't like your answers.
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1 hour ago, asianbreeder55 said:Can somebody update me on this, why do the hotels enforce an above 20/21 year old rule for guests?
Obviously because hotels don't want teenagers cavorting with adults in their rooms, regardless of whether it's p4p or not. I would do the same if were them. Wouldn't you?
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1 hour ago, CanadaVisitor said:It wouldn't be that big of a deal for me to buy an onward ticket and cancel it or to use the website that @katana57 and @pennybridge mentioned, but if I don't need to do those things I would rather not go through the extra hassle.
Thai immigration cards have a date of departure field that you are required to fill out, so you will have to come up with a stated departure date to enter the country.
Out of curiosity, I just looked at google flights for a one way to ticket BKK to Vientiane on Sept. 20 and it was only $53 (Air Asia). I agree that's money tossed down the rathole, but at least you will be covered in case they do ask for a departure ticket at immigration.
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4 hours ago, rigidcanuck@gmail.com said:Any vets have thoughts? Do the higher end hotels around the lumpini//wireless rd embassy row areas typically have any issues with LB guests? I’ve never had a problem in the mid range spots I usually frequent, but have some hotel points to burn next trip and considering a few nights in the area…Intercontinental was one option…seems like a convenient location with BTS Chit Lom at the doorstep…always book for 2 people of course, regardless of hotel.
Do the higher end spots have a more restrictive attitude generally? Or is it the opposite possibly? Or the good old…same same but different
I’m not suggesting that I have any fucks to give what the night (or morning
) desk clerk or doorman actually thinks, far from it. Just curious on the reaction to expect
Questions about whether Hotel X or Hotel Y is LB friendly are frequently posted here. Somebody here may be able to give you help and the info will likely be accurate, but the smartest move is to email the hotels you are interested in and ask them directly.
Whenever I have planned an LB trip and am considering at an unfamiliar hotel, I always contact them and find out what their guest policy is. Rare is the hotel that outright prohibits overnight guests, but some do charge (or will try to charge) "guest fees" for overnight guests even if the res is for 2 folks. Finding out about guest fees or issues beforehand directly from the horses mouth can save you from an ugly little surprise when you check out.
The email just needs to read something like this:
"Hello - Can you tell me what your hotel overnight guest policy is? Can my ladyboy friend stay the night in my room?"
Be sure to mention your guest will be an LB. Most hotels will answer, but a few don't and you should avoid those that don't respond. Good luck.
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