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Welcome to the forum. I stayed at Hopeland for 3 nights during my last Bangkok trip a few weeks ago in January as well as staying at Citrus Suites, Park Royal Suites and Lohas Suites. Some of the issues with Hopeland were detailed by other guys in this thread. A few too many folks hanging around in the lobby all the time, some of them snoozing away on the sofas. My room was large and I had no complaints except for the bullshit dim lighting in the bathroom. It was so bad, they may as well have had candles in there. I never tried their restaurant. No worries because a few paces away is the very solid Det 5 bar/restaurant which is open all day and serves from a big menu with modest prices. You can't go wrong with that place. It is a bit of a hike down Soi 8, but they have a golf cart to transport guests to Sukhumvit. If you don't want to walk down Soi 8 to the hotel, you can take a moto taxi from Suk for 20 baht. During the day when the sun is beating down, that's money well spent. Of the 4 hotels I stayed at, I would say Park Royal Suites and Lohas Suites both offer more bang for the buck that Hopeland. I think Citus Suites is overpriced for what they provide, but it's popular with many BMs. In this price range, the best of all the suite hotels for mongering purposes is Adelphi Suites on Soi 8. Yes, they can be pricier compared to the other places, but if you can stomach spending the extra cash, it's definitely the best place to stay due to its location with equal proximity to all the lounge bars. None of them are a more than a 5 -10 minute walk from Adelphi.

When they assign you a room, the very first thing you need to do is open the shower door and verify there are no sewer odors coming from the drain. I ran into this issue during my stay there in December. They gave me a new room. I know that Thai plumbing can be dodgy in older buildings, so it was surprising to experience it in building just a few years old. FWIW, I have stayed at Citrus Suites 3 or 4 times over the years and never had any odor issues until last visit. What is interesting that I had the same issue with a Citrus 11 room a few years back. The staff there gave the impression they were quite well acquainted with the problem of smelly shower drain odors. Make what you will of that.

Another alternative is to directly ask for your credit card company for the refund instead of hoping booking sites or the hotel will do the right thing. American Express in particular is very good about protecting their cardholders. Over the years I have cancelled 5 or 6 "non-cancellable" hotel reservations with Amex and gotten my money back every time with no questions asked.

Fortune Town gets a A+ in my book. About 10 years ago, I left on a ladyboy trip and failed to pack my laptop charger. I thought I was screwed because the laptop was an ancient Lenovo that was built during the Bronze Age. A guy working the front desk of my hotel told me about Fortune Town. I had to visit a couple of different shops before I found the charger, but people there were very helpful in getting me steered to a little place that sold nothing but chargers and batteries. It really did save me a world of trouble, because I needed the laptop to do work for back home. It's also a fun place just to wander around and look at stuff.

Damn, I posted at the exact same time Mangatanga posted his decision to stay at Citrus. Oh well, folks can use my post for future reference...

I have stayed at both hotels. Park Royal once last year (and many stays when it was Phachara). I have only stayed at Citrus one time, which was earlier this year. I have also stayed at Adelphi many times. If your top priority is simply the room itself, Park Royal wins. The executive suites are a bit larger, and the kitchenettes are better equipped with clothes washers. Citrus does not have washers. The bathrooms at PR are much larger than either Citrus or Adelphi. I don't know about anyone else, but I am not of fan of tiny bathrooms with no countertop space and small showers that are found in too many Bangkok hotels. You don't have that problem at Park Royal (pic below is from Trip Advisor). I think all of the executive suites have balconies, but the ones on the upper floors are quite large 15 sq. yds/meters or so. You could look down into Nana Plaza from them before NEP installed their roof a few years ago. The balconies are a winner. Citrus has better hotel amenities like restaurant and pool. PR's restaurant isn't even worth setting foot in, but the Citrus restaurant is a perfectly good place to eat breakfast or lunch in. PR has a large pool, but that gets cancelled out by the roof over it that blocks out most of the sun and renders the water colder than the Arctic Ocean. Citrus' pool gets a lot of sun and the water won't freeze your ass off, which it makes it much better in my book. Like Nick Bullseye says, Citrus and Adelphi do not take LB IDs, but Park Royal does. There's really not that much difference among these 3 hotels. I would still take Adelphi over Park Royal or Citrus Suites due to its location, but the other places have their own strong points.

Who gives a shit about the moral indignation of parents who take their kids on vacation to a red light zone?

You may want to take a look at Radisson on Soi 13 or Solitaire on Soi 11. I have stayed at both of them in the past. Both are LB friendly with no guest fees. They both have all the bells and whistles of typical 4 star hotels. Radisson has a great pool on the roof along with a very solid Indian restaurant downstairs. Solitaire has gigantic beds, wider than king-size that can easily accommodate 3 LBs and yourself. Solitaire is about a two minute walk from Cindy's bar. The only downside to these places is the long hike down 11 or 13 to Sukhumvit. Taking a moto taxi or a tuk-tuk is sometimes pointless because Soi 11 is often gridlocked at night with traffic. 13 is better, but it still takes time to get down the street. During daytime, traffic is a lot lighter however.

It surely is LB friendly, but if you need peace of mind, all you have to do is email them. Have it read exactly like this: "Hello- Can you tell me what your guest policy is? Can my ladyboy friend stay overnight? Thanks, XXXX XXXX" Be sure to mention your guest will be a ladyboy. Chances are you will receive positive reply. Like Genghis said, book your room for 2 guests (this won't cost any more than booking for 1 guest).

I looked up SVK airport code. It's a small and privately owned landing strip with a gravel surface located in Belize. If we connect the dots, it's reasonable to conclude that it's owned by a Central American drug lord and that the immigration process entails talking your way past a guy pointing an AK-47 at your head while threatening to work you over with a blow torch if he doesn't like your answers.

I wasn't sure where to place this thread, so it may get moved to the "Hotel Review" section. Anyhow...... A BM here recently asked about the ladyboy guest policies of a BKK hotel. This gave me the idea to email various hotels around lower Sukhumvit inquiring about their guest policies and whether ladyboys are welcome as overnight guests. The hotels I contacted are all within walking distance of Nana Plaza, CIB, Paradise bars as well as other LB venues such as Nuch Salon. I focused on hotels located on the odd number Soi side of Sukhumvit since most guys are already familiar with the policies of the hotels on the even number Soi side such as Marriott, Phachara, Heaven@4, etc. They all received an identical email from me: Hello, Can you tell me what your guest policy is? Can I have a ladyboy guest stay in my room overnight? Thank You, ******* ***** The hotels I have received replies from so far are listed in the order they responded, along with their Soi location as well as the per-night price for a standard room. I contacted places ranging from budget hotels on up to higher end properties like the Sofitel and the Westin. The replies are all verbatim. If you need clarification, their email addresses are on their websites. As they respond, I will continue to update here. I will also be emailing other hotels for the purpose of determining what their guest / ladyboy policies are as well. ______________ Hotel Solo Sukhumvit 2 Soi 2 1840 baht per night Warm greeting from Hotel Solo Sukhumvit Soi 2!! We would like to inform you that we do not charge for a Night Visitor fee. For more your information details below: 1. Night visitor should be above 20 years old not less than 20 years old. 2. Night visitor should have identification card (Not allowed who do not have identification card stay with client) 3. Night visitor should show identification card and leave he/her I.D card with the front desk front for your security and hotel security. 4. When a night visitor come to contact us before we give her I.D card back. We will call to remind with client for make sure everything alright. Any assistance please does not hesitate to contact us. Best Regards, Nattaporn B.(Mr.) GSA ______________ Grand Swiss Hotel Soi 11 2600 baht per night Dear Sir Warmest greeting from Central Reservations Office. Thank you for your e-mail. In regard to your query, I would like to inform you that our hotel is guest friendly and there is no charge for overnight staying guest. We only request ID card / Passport for secure reason only. Do you have booking now ? Best Regards, Metinee Sea-Ngow Ms. ( Nancy) _______________ Four Points Sheraton Soi 15 2900 baht per night Dear Mr. ***** As per your question , You are allowed to have a lady boy stay overnight however it had better to have a ladyboy come to register with us. It is for a security reason. Should there be any further assistance ,Please let us know. Be well, Yanathon Duty Manager _______________ Adelphi Suites Soi 8 2450 baht per night Dear Sir, Greeting from Central Reservation Office! Thank you for writing to us. For guests who make bookings through the hotel's own website, we do not charge for your visitor. However, her ID Card or Passport is required to register at reception for our security reason only. Should you require more information please do not hesitate to contact us and looking forward to welcome and serve you soon Best Regards, Ms. Palida (Pla) Central Reservation Officer _______________ Lohas Suites Soi 2 2045 baht per night Dear Sir, Greeting from Lohas Suite by Super Hotel ! Please be informed that there is no charge for guest friendly. If you require any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me Best Regards, Pitchayaporn Klaopimai (Wann) Sales Coordinator __________________ Salil Hotel Soi 11 1500 baht per night Dear Mr. **** Thank you for your interested in our hotel, we would like to inform you that the room available for 2 person and the hotel is friendly free of charge. Should you require further information or assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are looking forward to welcoming you at salil Hotel soi 11 Best Regards, Araya R. Reservation Supervisor Salil Hotel Sukhumvit Soi 11 21/4 Soi Sukhumvit 11 (Chaiyos), Sukhumvit Road, Klongton Nua, Wattana, Bangkok 10110 Thailand Tel. 662 651 3830-3 Fax: 662 651 3834 ___________________ On 8 Sukhumvit Hotel Soi 8 1800 baht per night Dear Sir, Thank you for considering On8 Bangkok. In regard to your query, there is no guest-friendly fee for our hotel guest valid for booking through hotel website only. We will require your guest to deposit their ID-card at the reception which shall be returned on his/her departure. You may review and consider any particular room type you are interested from http://www.on8bangkok.com/en/ and we shall then revert to you with availability & rates. Alternatively you can always check for the same information on the website itself as well. Should you require more information please do not hesitate to contact us. Best Regards Nithiphon Deecharoen Mr.(Izax) Central Reservation Officer _______________________ Citrus 11 Soi 11 2100 baht per night Dear Sir, Greeting form Central Reservation Office! Thank you for your e-mail. In regard to your query, I would like to inform you that a guest friendly is no charge for overnight staying guest. We only request ID card / Passport for secure reason only. Should you require more information please do not hesitate to contact us Best Regards, Timpika Kremla (Vaida) ________________________ Oasis Inn Soi 1 1100 baht per night Dear ****, Thank you for your e mail. For our room 1 room is for 2 persons, if you have someone stay with you we just need her /his ID CARD at the front desk. Kind Regards, Wichuda Chimwiset (Chim) Reservation Dep. ______________________ Ad Lib Bangkok Soi 1 3000 baht Dear ******* Warm greeting from Ad Lib Bangkok! Thank you for your kind interesting stay at Ad Lib Bangkok! Regards, as per your question about charge fee of a lady boy when join in your room. And we are additional charge 1,000.-THB Net room only per person per night and we are request a copy ID card when arrival at our hotel. Could you please contact our front desk with give it which security and hotel policy. Especially in case you make a reservation directly with us via e-mail not though online agent without charge and should be stay minimum 3 nights or up. Please kindly advise your arrival date preferable and we will send the best rate for your promptly. Should you require further information or assistance please feel free to contact us and we look forward to welcoming you soon. Warm Regards, Korawan Nantasutha Assistant Reservation Manager __________________________ Dream Hotel Soi 15 2180 baht Dear Mr. ******* Greeting from Dream Hotel Bangkok! Please be informed the hotel not charge for the visitor but please leave ID card or passport at the front desk for your security. If you have any question please contact us at any time. Best regards, THANATSHA SRIBOONRUANG Guest Service Manager 10 Soi Sukhumvit 15, Sukhumvit Road, Klongtoey Nua, Wattana, Bangkok 10110 T: +66 (0)2 254 8500 Ext. 7116 F: +66 (0)2 254 8534 www.dreamhotels.com _______________________ Grand Sukhumvit Soi 6 2885 baht Dear Mr. **** Kindly be informed our joiner policy that we will charge at THB 1,000.- per person per night. Should you need more information, please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind Regards, Buagaew Todsapon | Reservation Grand Sukhumvit Hotel Bangkok Managed By ACCOR. Phone: +66 2 207 9999 Fax: +66 2 207 9555 Website: www.grandsukhumvithotel.com ________________________ Amari Boulevard Soi 5 2885 baht Dear ****** Thank you very much for your e-mail. Please be informed that in case, there will be another guest(Women or Ladyboy) joining your room, the charge at THB.1,000.-net per person per night will be applied for the additional guest. Kindly have your guest (Women or Ladyboy) contact our Front Office once arrive to the hotel for the security purposes. Should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Angkana Suiwong Team Member, Reservations ___________________________ Ambassador Bangkok Soi 11 1400 baht Dear Mr. ****** Greetings from Ambassador Bangkok. Thank you for your e-mail. We would like to inform you that guest friendly is free of charge, we charge THB 20.- for copy ID only. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do to be of assistance. Best regards, Reservation Officer The Ambassador Bangkok 171 Sukhumvit 11, Klongtoey, Wattana, Bangkok 10110 Thailand Tel. +66 (0) 2254 0444 Ext. 1220-1224 Fax. +66 (0) 2254 7503/ 16 E-mail : rsvmbkk@amtel.co.th, rsvbkk@amtel.co.th Website : www.amtel.co.th _________________________ Hotel Icon Bangkok Soi 2 1775 baht Dear Mr. ****** Greetings from Hotel Icon Bangkok! Thank You for your email. Regarding your query, we would like to inform you that our room can accommodate up to TWO guests. However, if the third guest is spending an overnight, there would be an additional charge of THB 800 per room per night. Adding on, if you have a visitor which is the second guest, please kindly bring the visitor to Front Desk for registration process. Please note this process is highly important for both yourself and the hotel. In addition, please kindly provide us with your arrival and departure date as we would like to offer your the exclusive offer for booking directly via email. We look forward for your response and to offer and process the room reservation real soon. For further assistance, please feel free to contact us. Wishing You a Wonderful Weekend! Best Regards, Ekachai S. Guest Relations Supervisor Hotel Icon Bangkok 49 Sukhumvit Soi 2, Khlong Toey, Bangkok 10110, Thailand Tel: +662 656 9797 Fax: +662 656 9997 Website: www.hoteliconbangkok.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/HoteliconBangkok Instagram: @hoteliconbangkok ______________________________ Fraser Suites Soi 11 3200 baht Dear Mr. ***** Greeting from Fraser Suites Sukhumvit, Bangkok Kindly be informed you that for the visitor there is no charge but we require his/her passport or ID. leave it at front desk.​ Should you require further information please feel free to contact us either by return email or by phone on +66 2 207 9300. Best Regards, Ms. Prattana Aphinantho Revenue Management Officer Fraser Suites Sukhumvit, Bangkok 38/8 Sukhumvit soi 11, Klong Toey Nua, Wattana, Bangkok 10110 Tel: +66 2 207 9300 Fax: +66 2 207 9301 Email: sales.sukhumvit@frasershospitality.com |www.frasershospitality.com __________________________

Obviously because hotels don't want teenagers cavorting with adults in their rooms, regardless of whether it's p4p or not. I would do the same if were them. Wouldn't you?

Thai immigration cards have a date of departure field that you are required to fill out, so you will have to come up with a stated departure date to enter the country. Out of curiosity, I just looked at google flights for a one way to ticket BKK to Vientiane on Sept. 20 and it was only $53 (Air Asia). I agree that's money tossed down the rathole, but at least you will be covered in case they do ask for a departure ticket at immigration.

As I recall, somebody here wrote that they had closed the Soi 4 entrance. No Soi 4 access would make things inconvenient for guests because that end of Soi 2 doesn't even get moto taxi traffic. I stayed there once 7 or 8 years ago. I had a prepaid room and when I arrived it wasn't ready. I had to cool my heels in their lobby for an hour. Normally that sort of screw-up is worth a complimentary room upgrade or a restaurant voucher, but they offered zilch. The hotel itself was fine, but making me wait for a room I had already paid for and not offering any compensation for the inconvenience guaranteed I will never stay there again.

It's obviously your body and your choice, but there is already a multitude of proven ED drugs readily available in Bangkok. Isn't it a lot easier and less risky to simply use one of those instead of hunting around Bangkok for some product being flogged on Youtube?

If I was hit with a cash fine for every time I quit a message board or listserv without formally deleting my account, I would be in bankruptcy court.

All you need to do is email (reservations should have an email address on their website) and ask if they are guest friendly: Hello - Is your hotel guest friendly? I will be having a ladyboy friend stay with me. Sincerely, John Monger Make it a point to mention that your guest will be an LB. Virtually every hotel in lower Sukhumvit is LB friendly, but a handful will charge the "guest fee" scam. Good luck.

The hotel is LB friendly, which means the bar will be LB friendly also.

Are you for real?

For a sex tourist like myself, the overall perception of Thailand is a super-duper excellent paradise, but for my ex-wife not so much. If this is for an academic study, please remember to cite my name in the foot-notes as well the references section. I love fame, no matter how small it is. Thank you.

Won't be happening unless those gals can up their game and squirt out javelins or shot puts.

Massage places in lower Sukhumvit are more common than 7-11 stores. Soi 8 has 4 or 5 legit massage houses alone. The smaller places pretty much offer the same services for the same prices (300 baht or so for a Thai massage). A good rule of thumb in finding a legit massage is to look for places staffed with middle-aged Thai ladies instead of 21 year old girls. Below is a place I frequently use when I stay on Soi 8. It's a legit place, reasonably priced. Just tell them what body parts need special emphasis and they will work on them. There are several other massage houses within spitting distance of this one that offer the same fare.

Agreed 100% I wrote about LBs and their fear of water a few years back. It's shocking how many of them don't know how to swim, even the ones from rural areas. The thread below was about taking LBs on trips, and their reluctance to go swimming was one of the things that was guaranteed to occur on most of my trips with them.

No doubt to prove to farang tourists that their Thai hotel room will not have one of these:

I stayed there back in 2019. As seen on pics below with Pao & JJ, they are 100% ladyboy friendly and you can take more than one ladyboy to your room with no questions asked. It has a funky steampunk decor that I liked but it may not be everybody's taste. The overall vibe is almost seedy, but the property is spotless and the rooms are very comfortable. The beds were extremely comfortable for a mid-priced BKK hotel. It has no pool. The bar / restaurant serves cold beer and pub food on the front patio but there are better dining options right around the corner at Terminal 21 which is about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. The side soi it's located on between soi 19 and Asok is pretty quiet. Directly across the street is an exotic car dealer who has Ferraris, McLarens and Bentleys on display. At the intersection of the Fusion Suites soi and soi 19 is a laundry. They're good but as I recall they do not offer same day service. I don't know if there are other laundries in the area. ,