I stayed at Phachara twice in a year some years ago. The first time was ok and there was no joiner fee for 1 guest. The 2nd time was late in the year and my massage lady said that they imposed a fee on ‘her’, the last time she visited a customer. I took her in w/o question except just for her ID. And they apparently do this to girls who come in in the wee hours. I believe there is someone taking advantage and bullying girls for cash.
I found that their services had deteriorated and everything else was getting sloppy so that was my last with them.
Then I tried Clover in Asoke but the rooms were small. Everything else was very good. No joiner fee here.
Centrepoint Suk 10 was next and this was fine. No joiner fee too.
My favourite remains Adelphi Grande. This is perfect although it is a tad far from Phrom Phong.