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  2. Posted

     

    I'll have to dig up the article I read this in. It was quite a while ago. If I can find it, I link it here. I don't completely understand it, but this is how I think it goes:

     

    There is a difference between the probability of a single event vs. the probability of a given series of that same event. In your example, for instance, the probability that you'd get infected the very first time is 1 in a 100. But the probability that you'd get infected after having escaped it 99 times in a row (if that happened) for example, would be much greater than 1 in 100. On the 100th time, the one-time odds may still be 100 to 1, but the series probability of infection by then is very high.

     

    Another example, the coin toss again. If you flip 10 heads in a row, and you know that over time the tosses will average out 50/50, you know that there's a better than average chance that after 10 heads, a tail becomes much more likely than a head (even though the *one time* event probability of the next toss is still 50/50). The series average has to eventually be 50/50 and the series up to this point has favored heads, making the *series probability* of a tails much more likely at this point. The one-time probability is overruled by the series probability, which strongly favors a tail.

     

    So in this way, a long string of good luck at the STD gambling tables make it increasingly more likely that one will get an STD, simply by probability: the series odds of getting an infection at this point have become much greater than the one-time odds.

    I see what you are getting at, but you are still misunderstanding probability theory. If the odds of a result are 100 to 1, they are always 100 to 1 for any given incident. The more times you engage an act the more likely you are to get that 1 time in a hundred result. But just because you've escaped 99 times does not in any way change the odds on your 100th time.

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    There is a misunderstanding here about the principles of probability theory. If the odds are 100 to 1 they are 100 to 1 every time. The odds don't change with each subsequent act. You could be infected the 1st time, the 50th time, the 100th time. It just means that if you engage in the act 100 times you are likely to be infected once.

     

    If you are concerned with the risk of HIV, it's very simple. Use condoms for anal sex every time. Oral sex is a risk for other STDs, but it is not a risk for HIV.

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  5. Posted · Edited by crazycloud

    Yes I find this annoying too as many of the girls have three letter names.

     

    The only way around it is to do a wildcard search by using * symbol.

     

    Basically the search engine will substitute * for any letter.

     

    search toy*

    Thanks. That actually worked to an extent, but i don't think it pulled up all the posts on her.

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    Good advice Hughjass.

     

    Also in regards to Toy you can also spell it differently. She is refferred to as Baitoey or Toey. If you are looking for Toey from CIB keep in mind she has only been working about 3 months, and there isn't that much on her except for CIB thread.

     

    Alternatively you may have success if you include the name of the bar they work or did work. For instance when you put Pai Cascade bar you will get several results (4 pages) and you will find her name in one of the titles.

    Thanks. Good to know.

  9. Posted

    My motto is best plan, no plan. I use forums like this to gather information -- like what bars are currently well-stocked, what current ST, LT rates are like, etc. For instance, since discovering this forum I now know that there are several girls at Guess Bar who are real nice lookers and known as good tops. Once I'm on the ground though all bets are off. I may walk into Guess Bar and find that I am drawn to a certain girl whose pictures didn't necessarily excite me, or I may just feel like spending the majority of my time at Cascades, or I may find a GG at one of my favorite gogo bars and barfine her three days in a row. The Bangkok playground presents so many possibilities. I just go with what comes up. Something always comes up.

  11. Posted · Edited by crazycloud

    I don't know about the others but I don't think the On8 is guest friendly. Not 100% sure on that but I remember looking into it once and decided against staying there because there was at least some doubt about them being guest friendly. Good luck. Have fun!

  12. Posted · Edited by crazycloud

    The Sawasdee 8 is where I usually stay. I've tried a few other places but always come back to this one. It's the best value for the money that I've found in the Sukhumvit area. Things I like about it:

     

    1) I can usually book it with breakfast for approximately 1200baht all-in through agoda.com.

     

    2) The rooms are small but clean and well-designed.

     

    3) Beds are large and comfortable.

     

    4) Wifi is decently fast and free.

     

    5) It is tucked into the dark and quiet end of soi 8 with lots of trees. I don't feel like I'm in the middle of sex tourist central but am just a short walk away. The location is really hard to beat.

     

    6) The staff are very nice.

     

    7) 24 hour tuk tuk service to the top of the soi and back. I usually carry their business card in my wallet and then have my girl call them when we are at the top of the soi. They are there in less than five minutes. It's also close enough to Suk to make walking an option.

     

    8) You can cut through the alleyway where Lolita's is to get to soi 4. I'm always tempted to stop and sometimes I do. :P

     

    9) Breakfast is nothing much but always has fresh fruit and yogurt, which is enough for me as I do most of my eating later out on the street. They have a nice little coffee machine amidst the breakfast spread that puts out a good fresh cup.

     

    10) They are guest friendly and I've had no problem bringing in LBs. I brought 2 GGs back with me one night and still no problem or joiner fee.

     

    11) The times that I've done LT my date has joined me for breakfast and no one seemed to care.

     

    12) If you happen to grab a late night beer from your refrigerator the price is more than reasonable. Unlike other places that hit you hard in the wallet for extras.

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  14. Posted

    hmmmm a personality check to ensure the condom doesnt break ,,,thats a new one....enlighten me as to the "quality "condoms ??

     

    I really shouldn't have to explain myself here but I will. There is a certain degree of trust involved when letting someone fuck your ass. If someone seems to be on drugs, drunk, or just a little "off," I don't necessarily trust that they will notice a condom break and stop immediately, or even care. It doesn't mean that condoms don't break with trustworthy partners. It just means a sober and grounded person is more likely to notice and act responsibly. As far as "quality" condoms, maybe do a little research. I always bring mine from home and I use Japanese brands. I don't know what is on the local Thai market but I have heard that the local condoms don't necessarily fit westerners well and condoms are more likely to break when they don't fit well. Maybe they work better when Thais are wearing them. Maybe not. I do know that the Japanese brands are high quality so I stick with those.

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    Why ask on a message board then? Yes, maybe we are talking bullshit, maybe not. Do you want my CV?

     

    I just find it amusing that people on some message boards expect others to take their statements as the final word because they have seniority on the board. The reason I asked here is because I thought there might be people familiar enough with the scene who could shed some light on the subject. Something like, "I had a GF who worked at Cascade. She says they don't do testing," is very helpful. Something like, "It doesn't happen," with no explanation, is not helpful at all, no matter how much "seniority" that person has.

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    Crazycloud if your so concerned tell her to get a blood test in the AM with the results in English you wouldn't have been the first one with that request!

     

    Not a bad idea. Thanks. I tend to barfine spontaneously though so it kind of rules out that option. But in the case where one really likes a girl and plans to barfine her multiple times I could see how it would be wise to have her tested. My general rule is to pick girls who seem sober and grounded enough to be responsible on the driving end of a condom. So far I've experienced no condom breaks with LBs. I think if quality condoms are used and they are put on properly it is pretty rare for them to break.

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    It seems like you are just going to keep asking until you get the answer you want - as if that might make you feel better/safer. From the answers you get here it seems at best there is uncertainty and at worst they do not get tested. If you ask ladyboys in the bar then they are probably going to tell you what you want to hear - that yes they are all clean and tested regularly.

     

    Of course I would like to believe that all the girls get tested in all the bars, but give me a break. man. I'm not a complete idiot. I'm not going to go ask the bargirls and just naively take their "yes" for an answer. Neither am I going to take "absolutely not" for an answer from people on a message board who I know nothing about. I have heard stories from various sources that GGs get tested. Maybe it's true, maybe not. I have heard it said that GG bars test their girls because if word gets out that customers are catching STDs at such and such a bar it can potentially kill their business. I still believe that GG bars test their girls. Maybe not all, but at least some. It wouldn't surprise me at all if ladyboy bars play by a different set of rules.

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    I just e-mailed a ladyboy friend who lives in Bangkok and worked for a brief time at Guess Bar before getting a job in retail. I asked her if she knew if the girls in the NEP ladyboy bars are required to be tested. She answered that she doesn't think so.

     

    I'll be in Bangkok again in a couple of months. I'll ask around in the bars this time and see what kind of answers I get.

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    I wouldn't assume anything in this scene .... ie. that LB bars do. But it is VERY encouraging to know that all GG bars in Nana do the tests in a robust manner with every girl present. It wouldn't be like Stickman to present such as fact if it isnt.

     

    I will make some further enquiries. This might be a subject where wishful thinking applies. Lotusguy I'm sure has some solid info, as he's not prone to flights of fantasy. Well ... not too many :D

     

    Well, Stickman mentioned once about agogo girls having to go for mandatory testing but then said in the same paragraph that he's heard of girls paying the doctor to fix their results. So there's that.

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    You're a new poster who asks a question - and gets a straightforward reply. Doesnt mean you're a newbie on the scene, or that you know nothing. But lotusguy does very likely know. This board tends to treat new posters well, but that is a two-way street.

     

    No sweat, man. I just consider "Does not happen" to be less than a helpful response. "Does not happen" with a brief explanation of how he knows that it does not happen would be entirely different. As a new poster I have no idea who lotusguy is. Not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers, but I think there is enough talk out there about mandatory testing to at least speculate that it happens. If someone knows with certainty that it does not happen and can say how they know, then that is very helpful. "Does not happen" with no followup is a frustrating response.

     

    Anyway, it would be nice if it happens. And not at all surprised if it doesn't or if it does and the girls and/or mamasans have devised numerous ways to get around it. It is Thailand after all. Nothing is ever quite what it seems or promises to be.

  22. Posted

    Stickman has mentioned monthly STD testing in the agogo bars but has never specified if the LB bars participate in that. If all the bars in Nana do the testing I would assume the LB bars also do it. I've also read about it on other message boards. Also, I've had GGs and mamasans tell me that the doctors come to the bars every month and do the testing on-site. I'm pretty confident that this is true. I posted here just to see if anyone could confirm that the LB bars also test. Again, I would assume they do.

     

    From what I've heard the girls used to go to the clinic to get the testing and were responsible to bring back the results (a practice which lends itself to fraudulent certificates) . Now the clinics come straight to the bars and test on-site.

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    I know that the girls who work in Nana Plaza agogo bars are subjected to monthly STD screening and are not allowed to work if they test positive. Can anyone confirm that the LB bars in Nana do the same kind of testing? Not that I plan on going bareback, but knowing that my date for the night is more likely to be HIV negative than the average FL makes me less nervous about potential condom breaks.

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